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Cider9986 11 minutes ago [-]
Cookies are not the meta for tracking anymore. Fingerprinting [1] is highly effective across IPs and across incognito/browser profiles. Content blockers like Brave shields or uBlock Origin do not stop fingerprinting.
The only browsers I've found that defeat it on desktop are Mullvad and Tor Browser as well as all the antidetect browsers I've tried.
Disturbingly, fingerprint.com is not defeated by Tor browser on Android. We know fingerprinting is more effective on Mobile, and the recommendations say to use desktop for most anonymity, so this isn't surprising.
Mullvad [2] and Tor browser are blocked from using or signing up for most websites because of IP reputation and the browser fingerprinting protections which make them look like VMs and bots. Unlike the antidetect browsers, they don't spend extensive resources on site compatibility and avoiding detection, which leaves most sites shaking you down for suspect fraud. Annoying, when the real fraudsters are passing through easily with anti detect browsers and residential IPs.
Antidetect browsers are used by marketers, web scrapers, social media account managers, ecom, among other low lifes. These use different browser profiles to avoid fingerprinting by isolating and randomizimg identifiers while constantly patching(use a few week old version and you'll see it gets detected as something to be blocked, not detected as in correlated cross profile, just blocked) to avoid detection. I'd like to see a privacy focused antidetect browser, but perhaps open source makes it easier for the fingerprinters to find detections.
[2] Essentially Tor Browser without the Tor network built in for better usability on the web. Because VPN IPs have better reputation than Tor exit nodes.
Can be used with any VPN, but most users will use Mullvad VPN giving a larger crowd. Mullvad has a browser extension which, when connected to Mullvad VPN on your computer, allows you to choose what ever server/IP you'd like and also offers a randomized per website and session option.
Mullvad and Tor are always incognito mode so tabs and logins are lost on close. Mullvad is working on a persistent mode, so I'm looking forward to that usability improvement.
account42 13 minutes ago [-]
> Using completely far-fetched figures, it argues that without cookie banners, all online advertising would come to a standstill.
If only. Unfortunately even without any tracking at all they could still bombard you with their psychological warfare machine.
no-name-here 4 minutes ago [-]
Wouldn't the likely effects of this be to:
1. Push even more of the internet within walled gardens like Meta and YouTube, where they don't have to rely on 3rd party cookies in order to show relevant ads
2. Push more of the web, including journalism, behind paywalls
3. Cause a lot of the existing free (ad supported) web to be taken down
4. For existing free/ad-supported sites, an even larger quantity of ads per page/time would be needed to continue running?
?
Ajoha 13 minutes ago [-]
Supporting noyb.eu since years for their great work.
snowpid 51 minutes ago [-]
I think this shows how much we need better democratic institutions like a full functioning parliament and (in my view) direct democracy on EU level.
If the councils make stupid ideas, citizen could start an initiative or at least the MEP can annoy the commission.
0dayz 16 minutes ago [-]
No it doesn't because it's member states not the commission push banners.
Which is thanks to the same member states for pushing the EU to have the council in the first place.
The only browsers I've found that defeat it on desktop are Mullvad and Tor Browser as well as all the antidetect browsers I've tried.
Disturbingly, fingerprint.com is not defeated by Tor browser on Android. We know fingerprinting is more effective on Mobile, and the recommendations say to use desktop for most anonymity, so this isn't surprising.
Mullvad [2] and Tor browser are blocked from using or signing up for most websites because of IP reputation and the browser fingerprinting protections which make them look like VMs and bots. Unlike the antidetect browsers, they don't spend extensive resources on site compatibility and avoiding detection, which leaves most sites shaking you down for suspect fraud. Annoying, when the real fraudsters are passing through easily with anti detect browsers and residential IPs.
Antidetect browsers are used by marketers, web scrapers, social media account managers, ecom, among other low lifes. These use different browser profiles to avoid fingerprinting by isolating and randomizimg identifiers while constantly patching(use a few week old version and you'll see it gets detected as something to be blocked, not detected as in correlated cross profile, just blocked) to avoid detection. I'd like to see a privacy focused antidetect browser, but perhaps open source makes it easier for the fingerprinters to find detections.
[1] https://fingerprint.com
[2] Essentially Tor Browser without the Tor network built in for better usability on the web. Because VPN IPs have better reputation than Tor exit nodes.
Can be used with any VPN, but most users will use Mullvad VPN giving a larger crowd. Mullvad has a browser extension which, when connected to Mullvad VPN on your computer, allows you to choose what ever server/IP you'd like and also offers a randomized per website and session option.
Mullvad and Tor are always incognito mode so tabs and logins are lost on close. Mullvad is working on a persistent mode, so I'm looking forward to that usability improvement.
If only. Unfortunately even without any tracking at all they could still bombard you with their psychological warfare machine.
1. Push even more of the internet within walled gardens like Meta and YouTube, where they don't have to rely on 3rd party cookies in order to show relevant ads
2. Push more of the web, including journalism, behind paywalls
3. Cause a lot of the existing free (ad supported) web to be taken down
4. For existing free/ad-supported sites, an even larger quantity of ads per page/time would be needed to continue running?
?
If the councils make stupid ideas, citizen could start an initiative or at least the MEP can annoy the commission.
Which is thanks to the same member states for pushing the EU to have the council in the first place.